0-15 – discussion on HP&T gua and spending more time there as a way to activate & animate the Ch’i;

15-25 – NOT necessarily using the colors associated with a gua when choosing paint colors;

25-30 – Orienting the Bagua on upper or lower floors;

30-end – far-ranging conversation involving broken floor boards, a sudden lack of motivation, preparing for a big trip, and the wisdom of the seasons.